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Gemara ispeak12/23/2023 ![]() However, since it says ( Psalms 55:24) " Men of bloodshed and deceit will not live out half their days." he was 33 or 34. Chanina: Do you know how old Balaam was? replied: It is not written. The Accusation Gloats over Jesus Dying Young, A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?-He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."Ī sectarian said to R. Ephraim Urbach, " Rabbinic Exegesis About Gentile Prophets And The Balaam Passage" (Hebrew), Tarbitz (25:1956), p. Meir HaLevi Abulafia, Yad Ramah, Sanhedrin ad. This passage has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus and there is certainly no insult implied towards Mary.Ĭf. However, when he lost that gift when G-d removed his prophecy, Balaam still wanted to see the future, even resorting to such pale comparisons as sorcery and black magic (like a carpenter). He was capable of seeing the future and even manipulating it through his curses and blessings. Similarly, Balaam started out as a man with prophecy (like a prince or ruler). Even when the ability to reach her old glory is obviously absent, she will still try everything possible to reach any position that remotely resembles it. Even if this widow is continually passed over by those she wishes to marry, she will still strive for her former glory, and will even marry a carpenter who, while not leading his countrymen out into battle, still must skillfully handle tools. If her husband were to die she would still want to marry someone in a similar position of leadership and strength. Consider a woman who is married to a powerful ruler who leads their people out into battle. She is used to being the wife of someone strong, whose powerful hands can skillfully manipulate a sword and overcome any opponents. Ĭheck out our video on Jesus in the Talmud. This tradition regarding Balaam's descent was also recorded in the Tanchuma and in Yalkut Shimoni. However, he turned to evil and in the end of his life became a sorcerer (i.e. Yochanan is saying that Balaam had tremendous potential and started out as a true prophet of G-d. Yochanan's statement as referring to Jesus and Rav Papa's as referring to Jesus' mother. Besides this fact, read the passage closely and you will see that Rav Papa is offering a parable that explains R. Therefore, the passage above is referring solely to Balaam and not to Jesus. As we shall soon see, Balaam is not a talmudic codeword for Jesus. Here we come to the common distortion that references in the talmud to Balaam are really veiled references to Jesus. Yochanan said (regarding Balaam): In the beginning a prophet, in the end a sorcerer. Rav Papa said: As people say, " She was the descendant of princes and rulers, she played the harlot with carpenters." See also Avraham Korman's discussion in Zeramim Vekitot Beyahadut, pp. Meier in his highly acclaimed A Marginal Jew, vol. All of this is cited approvingly by John P. Johann Maier calls it " odd speculation". Gustaf Dalman rejects the assertion that this Mishnah refers to Jesus . Similarly, RT Herford calls this suggestion " doubtful and probably unfounded" . There is no reason to assume that this refers to Jesus. Investigations into lineage and proclamations of bastardy were not uncommon (cf. The keeping of geneological records was very common in talmudic times so that regular Jews did not marry bastards and violate the biblical prohibition ( Deuteronomy 23:3). Plony is a biblical term used similar to John Doe today (cf. The Mishnah was most likely referring to a famous person and, due to the lack of any practical ramifications, his name was left out by the compilers of the Mishnah. However, this claim is patently ridiculous. This is claimed to be a reference to Jesus. ![]() ![]() Shimon ben Azzai said: I found a book of geneologies in Jerusalem and in it is written "The man Plony is a bastard." The reference to Shabbat 104b will be taken up in the section on the Jesus narrative. ![]() "Mary was a whore: Jesus (Balaam) was an evil man." (Sanhedrin 106a &b, p.725). "Jesus was a bastard born of adultery." (Yebamoth 49b, p.324). Jesus in Hell The Accusation Insults Against Blessed Mary, Sanhedrin 106a, says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbat 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. ![]()
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